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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 3, 2007 19:11:44 GMT
it's easy who is the worst GM in the NBA today.
(if it's none of the above) then please state who it is then.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 3, 2007 19:30:34 GMT
BUMP.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 3, 2007 21:24:38 GMT
My vote goes to McHale, but Ainge and Cupcake are quite close behind them.
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 3, 2007 22:11:49 GMT
McHale is absolutely clueless. It doesn't help that Rob Babcock is his assistant either. (Rob is the guy who traded Vince Carter for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, and Joey Graham)
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Post by redstorm177 on Jul 4, 2007 0:48:29 GMT
I voted for Ainge, but Mchale is a close second. I am very surprised that the Celtics gave up the 5th overall pick, an impressive prospect in Delonte West, and Wally for an aging Ray Allen. Ray is a GREAT player, but he is an injury waiting to happen. I don't think that a core of Allen, Pierce, and Jefferson is even enough to win the East so I view this trade as only putting the Celtics in a worse position in 3 years when Allen's max contract comes off the books.
Also, Ainge was about to ship out the 5th pick, Al Jefferson, and a few of their young prospects for KG, until Garnett made it known he would not resign with the Celtics. That would have been a HUGE mistake, even for a future Hall of Famer in Kevin Garnett.
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Post by 76erskyd on Jul 4, 2007 1:24:48 GMT
Billy King SUCKS!
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 5, 2007 16:12:05 GMT
Draft 2001 no picks (missed out on Arenas) 2002 drafted and traded for Rush (could of had Boozer, Barnes, or Prince) 2003 drafted Brian Cook (could have traded for Diaw or drafted Kapono, Howard, or Barbosa 2004 drafted Vujacic (could of had Tony Allen, D. West, the other K-Mart via trading up, or right there in pick 27 he could of had Duhon, Noicioni, or Varajao 2005 drafted Von Wafer (could of had Monta Ellis, Andray Blatche, or Ryan Gomes 2006 drafted Farmer (could of had Millsap or Gibson) Trade traded Shaq for Butler, Odom, Grant and the pick eventually known as Jordan Farmer (could of had Nash, Jamison, and Walker for Shaq instead traded away Butler for Kwame (if he kept him could of had Ron Artest right now) traded away Payton, Fox and pick for Jones, Atkins, and Mihm (could of had Mihm, Banks, Atkins and 1st rd. pick (pick 18 in 05) trades he could have done any deal with Bynum or Odom for a superstar wasting Vlade, Slave, and George's contract without getting nothing, as well as mihm, mckie, williams, and now Kwame FA re-signed George and Slave, signed Vlade Divac, Aaron Mckie, and Shammond williams, (could of had Chauncy Billups, or Larry Hughes, Antonio Daniels, and other FA) This ladies and gentlemen is the trackrecord of B!tch Kupcrack and Jim Buss brought to you by firemitchkupchak.com
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Post by 76erskyd on Jul 6, 2007 3:14:17 GMT
The trades are the biggest problems. Personally, I think that 2nd round draft slip ups arent completely the GM's fault, if the guy slipped to round two nobody knew how good they would be and that isnt a complete discredit to the GM. King with Philly has 2 good first rounders, has traded one or two and this year was horrendus. Also, hes not exactly trade god either.
BTW, Dr. Buss is a BIG problem for Mitch Kupchak, who could do wetter without BusT screwing things up
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 16, 2007 1:41:59 GMT
That would be beyond terrible for Toronto, although I highly doubt he was actually dumb enough to offer that. I think that rumour was on a site that some random dude made.
Spurs, do you post on realgm?
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 16, 2007 2:54:44 GMT
I used to, don't have much time to post there anymore
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Post by marcmirx on Jul 16, 2007 3:27:52 GMT
It has to be McHale. The wolves are going nowhere and he doesn't decide to trade KG.
If Kg was traded last season, the wolves could have obtained some young star and good fillers for the future.
Instead, they prefered to stay with a 9th seeded type of team that doesn't win now and wont win in the future either.
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 16, 2007 18:56:12 GMT
I used to, don't have much time to post there anymore What's your username? You might recognize me. I'm Led Zeppelin and I post quite a bit.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 10, 2009 17:21:55 GMT
Bump, haha. Still think Ainge is the worst GM Boston?
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 10, 2009 18:21:21 GMT
Steve Kerr FTW
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Post by redstorm177 on Feb 10, 2009 20:02:29 GMT
I don't know about that. Its hard to imagine any GM being successful in PHX given that the owner seems to prioritize saving money more than anything else, which is why they constantly sell their draft picks. I actually liked the trade he pulled off for J-Rich though. Speaking of the J-Rich trade, what about MJ of the Bobcats?
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Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 10, 2009 20:32:55 GMT
Bump, haha. Still think Ainge is the worst GM Boston? I still think his strength is in drafting. It doesn't take much skill to recognize that Kevin Garnett (and Ray Allen) is a player worth giving up youth for in exchange. If anything I'd say Kupchak is the guy who's proved us wrong. He's pulled of some incredibly shrewd deals over past year and a half. McHale got my vote two years ago though, and he still gets my vote now.
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Post by ragas2134 - LAC on Feb 10, 2009 21:21:39 GMT
John Paxson. He fell in love with the core he drafted and valued his players much higher than the rest of the league. His willingness to not pull a trigger on a big deal is and has been well documented.
Heres hoping he can pull of an Amare deal. He might buy some time with the Bulls faithful if he can. If he cant, he should join a witness protection program as millions will want him lynched.
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Post by trizir- HOU on Feb 10, 2009 21:41:09 GMT
The worst of all will be Kevin McHale if you still remember the incident involving losing the draft pick because shady deal and he is bad in drafting also signing and trading but i think he should just coach maybe not
I think also is Isiah Thomas but his no.2 who sign too many horid contract and almost destroying knicks but his only upside he knows how pick rookies of there potential
I think MJ is not the gm and only the vice thats what i've heard
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Feb 10, 2009 21:48:08 GMT
I think Larry Bird has done a fine job with the Pacers. They used to be the best team in the East, and now they have a solid core on the rise lead by TJ Ford and Danny Granger.
My vote is Isiah Thomas. Destroyed the Knicks.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 10, 2009 21:49:08 GMT
I don't know about that. Its hard to imagine any GM being successful in PHX given that the owner seems to prioritize saving money more than anything else, which is why they constantly sell their draft picks. I actually liked the trade he pulled off for J-Rich though. Speaking of the J-Rich trade, what about MJ of the Bobcats? I dunno...when I first saw that trade I thought that it was one hell of a deal...but now I think that the Suns didnt really need another scoring guard...they have like 1000 million guards who can only score...Bell was fine and was good in D, not that good like he was before but still he was solid IMO... but Kerr wants to trade Amare now for youth...IMO he should wait cuz Nash and Shaq will expire and then he can build around Amare and maybe JRich...but starting trading our best player IMO is a terrible idea right now
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 10, 2009 23:30:10 GMT
The thing is, Phoenix's hands are tied and they have to trade Amare or lose him for nothing in 2010 seeing as how he's unhappy there.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 10, 2009 23:44:12 GMT
Yaeah but just because he is unhappy doesnt mean that they cant get the best trade for him...he is a top player and is worth guys like KG/Howard...
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Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 11, 2009 0:27:12 GMT
Apparently the shit state of the economy is playing a big role in a lot of these deals to shed salary. I mean, New Orleans shipping Tyson Chandler makes no sense either otherwise.
A lot of the other teams recognize this too. Therefore they aren't as willing to give up a huge amount of assets for a guy who'll demand a massive salary soon or leave and enter free agency.
Whether or not Steve Kerr sucks does not even matter. This trade is gonna be bad for the Suns W/L no matter what happens.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 11, 2009 0:28:47 GMT
Yeah...the Suns had a team that could win the title since like 2004...but they were good before too...not they will just give up...
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 11, 2009 0:30:54 GMT
Yaeah but just because he is unhappy doesnt mean that they cant get the best trade for him...he is a top player and is worth guys like KG/Howard... Those guys aren't going anywhere. The best deal available wouldn't land you another player of Amare's level because those type of guys aren't on the block.
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Post by nosh2 - LAL on Feb 11, 2009 2:05:53 GMT
Yaeah but just because he is unhappy doesnt mean that they cant get the best trade for him...he is a top player and is worth guys like KG/Howard... Those guys aren't going anywhere. The best deal available wouldn't land you another player of Amare's level because those type of guys aren't on the block. They don't want a player of Amare's caliber because they are trying to shed salary which is why they'll probably trade with the Bulls. Deng keeps on increasing his value and he could be in the Shawn Marion mold with the Suns and they'll get some other young talent players in the deal.
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