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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:01:26 GMT
Post by bringit - CHA on Feb 14, 2009 18:01:26 GMT
i think an 82 is not for Oden. Yes he's young but come on, with JO at a 80 now, do u think Oden is better than JO? I think not, but that just me. JO is putting up
13.5 ppg, 7 rpg, 2 bpg
Oden on the other hand
9 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 bpg
thats a joke honestly. Oden should go down to 75.
Yes u can say oden has injury problems, but didnt JO have injury problems as well and thats why he went down since he was not producing.
Just saying
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:07:38 GMT
Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 14, 2009 18:07:38 GMT
I agree, Oden is too high. He should take a ratings hit to a, more conservative, 76 in my opinion. We know what he's capable of, but until he fulfills that potential an 82 is far too generous.
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:07:49 GMT
Post by New Jersey Nets on Feb 14, 2009 18:07:49 GMT
oden will get a decrease now that he is not on the knicks... just had to get him off the committee before he got his decrease
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:09:36 GMT
Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Feb 14, 2009 18:09:36 GMT
oden will get a decrease now that he is not on the knicks... just had to get him off the committee before he got his decrease Uh why the hell would he get a decrease now that he isn't on the knicks?? What kind of BS is that? Lemme also just say that I traded Howard to get an 80 player back and it's complete shit to keep changing ratings on a whim....
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:15:47 GMT
Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 14, 2009 18:15:47 GMT
oden will get a decrease now that he is not on the knicks... just had to get him off the committee before he got his decrease It was Charlotte who posted this thread. Do you not agree that Oden needs a decrease for now? Uh why the hell would he get a decrease now that he isn't on the knicks?? What kind of BS is that? Lemme also just say that I traded Howard to get an 80 player back and it's complete shit to keep changing ratings on a whim.... If Oden fulfills his potential then he'll easily get back into the 80s and beyond. Even if he was rated a 76 when you had your trade, I still would have accepted the deal as a fair one, Oden still has the potential to be an awesome force, but for now he doesn't deserve that rating.
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:23:30 GMT
Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Feb 14, 2009 18:23:30 GMT
oden will get a decrease now that he is not on the knicks... just had to get him off the committee before he got his decrease It was Charlotte who posted this thread. Do you not agree that Oden needs a decrease for now? Uh why the hell would he get a decrease now that he isn't on the knicks?? What kind of BS is that? Lemme also just say that I traded Howard to get an 80 player back and it's complete shit to keep changing ratings on a whim.... If Oden fulfills his potential then he'll easily get back into the 80s and beyond. Even if he was rated a 76 when you had your trade, I still would have accepted the deal as a fair one, Oden still has the potential to be an awesome force, but for now he doesn't deserve that rating. It's just f'ing BS to keep changing players rating as the season goes along...You, as the OWNER of the league, need to set a specific timeframe for players rating changes. Don't keep increasing or decreasing the ratings as the season goes along. That's complete shit... Hmm...what's next waiting til just before the playoffs start and then make the 'final' player rating changes? Changing players ratings "as you go" effects everyone in the league. My opinion ... you guys making the decision on this f'ing suck because you should have made all the changes prior to the season starting...
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:28:24 GMT
Post by pistons521 - MIA on Feb 14, 2009 18:28:24 GMT
People have no problems with changing ratings when it benefits them My man, so what if Oden goes down to a 75-76? He is still one of the better centers with a high trade value. All everyone is trying to do is accommodate for real life performances...you should know Oden is not worth an 82. It was bound to happen sooner or later. In real life would Dallas trade Josh Howard for Greg Oden right now? You bet. It wasn't a bad trade, but Oden does deserve to dip a little. Especially considering fellow rookie center Marc Gasol is considered to be better than Oden right now.
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:49:33 GMT
Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Feb 14, 2009 18:49:33 GMT
People have no problems with changing ratings when it benefits them My man, so what if Oden goes down to a 75-76? He is still one of the better centers with a high trade value. All everyone is trying to do is accommodate for real life performances...you should know Oden is not worth an 82. It was bound to happen sooner or later. In real life would Dallas trade Josh Howard for Greg Oden right now? You bet. It wasn't a bad trade, but Oden does deserve to dip a little. Especially considering fellow rookie center Marc Gasol is considered to be better than Oden right now. I think you're missing my point... 1. I don't like the fact that NJ suggests oden will get a decrease now that he is not on the knicks... just had to get him off the committee before he got his decrease That leads to think that some sort of inpropriety is going on. It sounds like "right on, now that Oden is on the Bucks we can go ahead with that decrease we have been dicussing about him." My questions to that comment is: "Why did he NOT get that decrease BEFORE he was traded?" Hmm...So, players that are on trade committee teams don't get a decrease unless they are traded first? 2. There should be a set time to make increases or decreases of players, it not only effects the gameplay, but trades. I wouldn't have traded Howard str8 up for Oden if he was a 76. I wanted an 80 player in return for an 85 player and that's what I initially got. I have no problems taking a lower rated player for a higher as long as it's within a few (+/- 5) rating points. The trade council would have voted no strictly off both players ratings.
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:53:09 GMT
Post by pistons521 - MIA on Feb 14, 2009 18:53:09 GMT
I agree. There should be set times that the changes occur. Beginning of season, All-Star Break (for the previous ones missed that shouldn't see a huge increase/decline) and end of season.
NJ is just saying that because he thinks the committee conspires to make their teams better and others worse.
I think the reason Oden didn't get a decline is because no one brought it up...
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 18:54:44 GMT
Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Feb 14, 2009 18:54:44 GMT
I agree. There should be set times that the changes occur. Beginning of season, All-Star Break (for the previous ones missed that shouldn't see a huge increase/decline) and end of season. NJ is just saying that because he thinks the committee conspires to make their teams better and others worse. I think the reason Oden didn't get a decline is because no one brought it up... I think u need to read NJ's comments more closely...he was already being talked about by the committee prior to being traded...
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 19:37:48 GMT
Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 14, 2009 19:37:48 GMT
It's just f'ing BS to keep changing players rating as the season goes along...You, as the OWNER of the league, need to set a specific timeframe for players rating changes. Don't keep increasing or decreasing the ratings as the season goes along. That's complete shit... I agree with this point. We should pre-establish a structured timetable for when player rating changes happen. For that reason, you can rest assured, Oden's rating will be the last one I change, and given the amount of guys on the list so far, it could be months before that happens.
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 19:41:09 GMT
Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 14, 2009 19:41:09 GMT
I think the reason Oden didn't get a decline is because no one brought it up... Exactly. There's no committee bias or anything like that, and definitely no conspiracy, lol. The only reason I agreed with Charlotte in this thread is because he posted about it. There hasn't been a single staff post in the hidden committee section since December 1st, 2008! And I've got enough player rating changes to do already without proposing new ones.
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 19:42:59 GMT
Post by pistons521 - MIA on Feb 14, 2009 19:42:59 GMT
I agree. There should be set times that the changes occur. Beginning of season, All-Star Break (for the previous ones missed that shouldn't see a huge increase/decline) and end of season. NJ is just saying that because he thinks the committee conspires to make their teams better and others worse. I think the reason Oden didn't get a decline is because no one brought it up... I think u need to read NJ's comments more closely...he was already being talked about by the committee prior to being traded... Was he? This is the first topic I've seen talking about his decline... Anyway, all NJ is saying is that " OF COURSE Oden is getting the decline now that he doesn't belong to a committee member's team. "
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Oden
Feb 14, 2009 21:09:18 GMT
Post by ragas2134 - LAC on Feb 14, 2009 21:09:18 GMT
Committee bias? LOL AT EVERYONE THAT THINKS THAT. Yes I used capital letters so that you can see how much I emphasized that. Some of you saying that, must of missed the part where half my team is getting decreased. Yea, i'm on the committee...Jesus Christ, whine much?
Grow a pair.
I do agree with the fact that these rating changes should have occurred before the season started. I think Boston was rushed into starting the season by half the GM's here, so we didnt get to have a true pre-season, in which we could have done rating changes.
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