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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 16, 2008 4:29:58 GMT
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Post by redstorm177 on Jul 16, 2008 4:31:50 GMT
I guess no Z-Bo to the Clippers...  |
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Post by simplyfat on Jul 16, 2008 4:48:08 GMT
thats a crazy trade, i can't believe nuggets did the trade
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 16, 2008 6:39:17 GMT
Denver sucked with him. They're going to suck even more now.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 16, 2008 10:02:25 GMT
He was perhaps Denver's only source of intimidating, consistent defense. It's amazing to see who Denver has payrolled at the moment but also compare that to the low expectations attatched to them.
This trade is a little bit similar to the one where Pau Gasol left Memphis to create cap space, and essentially Memphis only got cap in return. I always feel that, with a star like Gasol or Camby, you can always atleast receive some talent in return from some team whilst simultaneously shedding cap room too. If you can't achieve that, don't trade them!
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 16, 2008 16:15:53 GMT
The reason why I don't get it from Denvers side is because they knew the Clippers were desperate to find someone to replace Brand but all they got is the option to swap second-round picks in 2010, they didn't even gain a pick.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 16, 2008 16:31:28 GMT
DON'T even compare the Gasol and the Camby deal, BOS Gasol is a LEGIT STAR. Camby is not.
he is a SOLID role player though.
DEN did a DUMB move.
what they should have done is gotten rid of Carmelo for Billups and Prince, I mean this team could actually compete in the West then
PG Billups
SG AI
SF Prince
PF Martin/Nene
C Camby
6th man: Kleiza
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jul 16, 2008 16:36:38 GMT
its gonna be impossible to get a rebound against the clippers if they play Kaman/Camby frontcourt
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Post by od3n52 - OKC on Jul 16, 2008 17:47:55 GMT
Well, that assures the Blazers a playoff spot, barring injury.
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Post by ryanhall1991 - MEM on Jul 16, 2008 17:59:04 GMT
if you told me denver would be sending the clips a big man, i would have bet my life that it would be k-mart. I don't see how you trade the one guy who excelled in your weakness: defense. This is the exact opposite of improving your team.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 16, 2008 18:01:02 GMT
it's over now the Clippers and the Nuggets are done.
1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Hornets
4. Jazz
5. Rockets (if YAO AND T-MAC CAN STAY HEALTHY)
6. Portland
7. Suns
8. Mavs (just scraping out the Warriors and T'Wolves.)
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 16, 2008 18:12:00 GMT
if you told me denver would be sending the clips a big man, i would have bet my life that it would be k-mart. I don't see how you trade the one guy who excelled in your weakness: defense. This is the exact opposite of improving your team. Exactly...Nene is getting almost the same thing that Camby was getting...I wonder why they didnt give Nene or even K-Mart that might start declining a lot... Camby is still a beast defensively and the Clips have now a really strong frontcourt |
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Post by ryanhall1991 - MEM on Jul 16, 2008 18:14:42 GMT
Mavs will be a top 4 team without avery's strict offense...kidd was held back and will return to form this season. Not to mention Josh howard will be playing his ass off to redeem his reputation. And Dirk will be pissed...i've watched every game the last couple of years and have only seen him pissed a few times, but when he's truly pissed he is absolutely unstoppable. Diop's defensive prescence is finally back in the middle as well!
Rick Carlisle will give the team to kidd and dirk, which is what avery should have done more. When you have two hall of fame players on one team you have to let them run the show.
I don't see the rockets, spurs, jazz, blazers, or suns finishing ahead of the mavs. The blazers will be good, yes, but they won't be that good for another year or two.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 16, 2008 18:24:19 GMT
the Mavs will be a good team but the West is tough, and also Dirk and Kidd has different styles of play, Dirk likes to play down low iso most of the time, Kidd likes to run up and down.
the Mavs tried the run up and down and they had a player who was younger at the time and is still a better shooter then Kidd in Nash.
the ONE thing that Kidd brings is good defense, hopefully TEAM USA basketball motivates him a lot to win the GOLD, and use that momentum and carry it over to the regular season.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 16, 2008 18:34:42 GMT
Well the Suns will be good if Shaq starts playing his ass off...Shaq wins titles if he wants to, so all depends on how well he will be when the season starts...
for the Phoenix Suns the next season might be our last chance to win a title for now...so its win or die...without a title.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 16, 2008 20:41:28 GMT
what they should have done is gotten rid of Carmelo for Billups and Prince, I mean this team could actually compete in the West then PG Billups SG AI SF Prince PF Martin/Nene C Camby 6th man: Kleiza If u were the Pistons would u trade Billups and Prince for Melo? |
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jul 17, 2008 1:53:35 GMT
what they should have done is gotten rid of Carmelo for Billups and Prince, I mean this team could actually compete in the West then PG Billups SG AI SF Prince PF Martin/Nene C Camby 6th man: Kleiza If u were the Pistons would u trade Billups and Prince for Melo? the pistons are the ones who made the offer there are rumors circulating now that the pistons have offered Chauncy Billups to GS for Andris Biedrins |
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 17, 2008 11:35:14 GMT
Yeah but I dont believe that the Pistons will do that....its not that good I mean they can get better things for sure....but it seems that they really want to trade Billups
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 17, 2008 17:53:21 GMT
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 17, 2008 18:14:17 GMT
Wow, and they are good young player that have potential...after that I can see tthat denver made a really dumb move no matter what they say
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 17, 2008 18:15:56 GMT
SO DENVER WINS THE CHRIS WALLACE AWARD THIS YEAR.
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Post by od3n52 - OKC on Jul 17, 2008 18:23:53 GMT
I don't see how it really helps them much, they're still 20mil over the cap, at least with Camby, they can actually win some games being 30mil over the cap.  |
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jul 17, 2008 19:15:56 GMT
If the Clippers were smart at all, they would trade Camby to New Jersey for Sean Williams and Josh Boone, and then go ahead and try to sign Okafor
basically trading a 2nd round pick for two legit 1st rounders
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Post by nosh2 - LAL on Jul 21, 2008 4:34:10 GMT
Clippers will be sick if they can get anything for Mobley and if Livingston can come back to around 80%.
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