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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 6, 2009 12:28:21 GMT
Last season we followed this league format - for those who don't know. But this season I'd like to reset the lineups and start again, with the following changes: -
Lineups will be reset to their real-life NBA rosters.
- All teams are open. I will not necessarily pick the Boston Celtics (shock!).
- Continue with 2 divisions of 18 teams, with the same relegation/promotion format.
- But Top 8 teams in Division 1 enter the playoffs and contend for the championship.
- The Bottom 8 teams in Division 2 enter a playoff system and contend for the number 1 pick! Winner gets the pick!
Let me know what you think guys! edited: will not be resetting rosters.
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Apr 6, 2009 14:51:20 GMT
If you reset all rosters then what is the point of the expansion teams? If rosters are reset then expansion teams who made trades wouldn't have their players anymore.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 6, 2009 15:35:10 GMT
If you reset all rosters then what is the point of the expansion teams? If rosters are reset then expansion teams who made trades wouldn't have their players anymore. There would be another expansion draft.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Apr 6, 2009 16:12:36 GMT
Can we pick our D6 teams now?
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Apr 6, 2009 16:48:03 GMT
If you reset all rosters then what is the point of the expansion teams? If rosters are reset then expansion teams who made trades wouldn't have their players anymore. There would be another expansion draft. I know that. Another expansion draft. Which means all previous work is down the drain. Which means that the promotion/demotion system is pointless. Expansion teams will never get good enough to win any games. I, for one, disagree with resetting rosters. If we didn't have expansion teams then sure.The whole system that league is founded upon is continuity from one season to the next; promotion, demotion, continual progress and trying to reach the top.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 6, 2009 18:53:37 GMT
There would be another expansion draft. I know that. Another expansion draft. Which means all previous work is down the drain. Which means that the promotion/demotion system is pointless. Expansion teams will never get good enough to win any games. I, for one, disagree with resetting rosters. If we didn't have expansion teams then sure.The whole system that league is founded upon is continuity from one season to the next; promotion, demotion, continual progress and trying to reach the top. Okay then, I could compromise on that, keep the old rosters, and just allow team-swapping to begin next season. I'd prefer to reset the rosters though, but let's see if more people have opinions on the matter.
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Post by bringit - CHA on Apr 6, 2009 19:10:32 GMT
Boston, do we really need D6 anymore? Lets face it, D6 was not a Grand Slam with people being active, and also didn't we do D6 to get closer to the draft since we were far ahead? I dont really care if we go back to D6 or not but im just saying with the way D5 is going now, we have active members, the 09 draft will be far gone by the time we get to the draft = much better, just seems to keep things at D5. But thats my opinion. Resting the rosters, ahhh i dont think ill ever get Cp3 again but Miami has a good point, GM who build there team took some work, but i also do understand your reason since you want a fresh start.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 6, 2009 19:43:02 GMT
It was disappointing that D6 was unpopular, and slightly perplexing since usually all you need is a competent simmer to make a sim league work. I'm thinking it was probably because the league format was so different, although that's the reason why I enjoyed it in the first place.
Yes, we do need D6 as an Off Season alternative, I don't ever want to hold a rookie draft before the actual draft has happened in real life. But we could have two seasons (this 2008/09 season and the next 2009/10 season) here at Dynasty Five before moving over to D6 again, instead of just the one.
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Apr 6, 2009 19:57:26 GMT
i dont see why we would do this
my expansion team is actually legit now..
C- Nene 72 PF- David Lee 75 SF- Shane Battier 78 SG- Mike Dunleavy 79 PG- Rodney Stuckey 69
i think resetting rosters takes away from everything a sim league is about and everything that D6 was about (promotion, demotion, expansion, ect)
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Apr 6, 2009 20:00:32 GMT
I don't think resetting the rosters will be a big deal since this time around we will be able to pick our own teams so if people join as new members (meaning their not already in D5) they won't necessarily be stuck with an expansion team.
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Apr 6, 2009 21:47:18 GMT
I don't think resetting the rosters will be a big deal since this time around we will be able to pick our own teams so if people join as new members (meaning their not already in D5) they won't necessarily be stuck with an expansion team. I really enjoy the idea of the D6 league. I'm not concerned with the regular teams at all, the established NBA teams. My concern lies with those expansion teams. People like NJ worked hard to take a team full of crap and make them decent enough to win some games. I think resetting rosters would cancel the entire point of D6 for these reasons: 1) Expansion teams - Expansion teams are introduced into leagues and take time to get good. Look at the Charlotte Bobcats right now for example...its been 5 years since they got into the NBA and they are barely legit. Granted, in sim leagues things are different and trades happen a bunch and you can change teams around quickly, but not quick enough to be a contender. It just makes 0 sense to do that to expansion teams...why have them if you're just going to take all the work away and start over? It's pointless. 2) The format - The format of D6 is specifically designed for continuation. The whole promotion/demotion format is wonderful, I thoroughly enjoy it. It rewards the good teams by placing them in the "big leagues" and the bad teams' goal is to get there. Resetting rosters completely throws everything out the window from last year. In fact, it would be like last season didn't ever happen. Starting from scratch. If you want to reset rosters just get rid of the expansion teams.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Apr 6, 2009 21:57:54 GMT
Yes resetting the roster would be like starting over but if we get rid of the expansion teams then whats the point of D6?
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 6, 2009 22:05:41 GMT
Expansion teams have to be there regardless because of the restrictions imposed by NBA Live 06: When you set up a season you must have an equal number of teams in each division, since there are six divisions that means that either you have 6, 12, 18 or 32 teams per league, and therefore 12, 24, 36 or 64 teams in total (if there's going to be two divisions like in D6). (Personally it'd be great to have a 64 team league, but there's not enough players in the database for that and there'd never be enough GMs either).
I like having expansion teams anyway, and as some posters in this thread have stated, their work last sesaon shouldn't be taken away.
I've been convinced, especially by Miami. I wont be resetting rosters, but I will allow a period where GMs can switch teams. There ought to be a few places to choose from because some of the old D6 GMs haven't transitioned over here.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 6, 2009 22:15:15 GMT
You guys realize, when we return to D6, we've still got the Off Season to get through!
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Apr 7, 2009 18:11:52 GMT
I really liked my Tmac Granger combo in New York!
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 18, 2009 14:55:50 GMT
Here's the updated league format for D6's next season: League Format18 Teams, 2 Divisions, 50 Games each season! Division 1[/color] [/li][li] 2nd Place - Playoffs [/color] [/li][li] 3rd Place - Playoffs [/li][li] 4th Place - Playoffs [/li][li] 5th Place - Playoffs [/li][li] 6th Place - Playoffs [/li][li] 7th Place - Playoffs [/li][li] 8th Place - Playoffs [/color][/li][li] 9th Place [/li][li] 10th Place [/li][li] 11th Place [/li][li] 12th Place - Relegation Playoffs (worst team is relegated) - 15th Pick in Rookie Draft [/li][li] 13th Place - Relegation Playoffs [/li][li] 14th Place - Relegation Playoffs [/li][li] 15th Place - Relegation Playoffs [/color] [/li][li] 16th Place - Relegated - 16th Pick in Rookie Draft [/li][li] 17th Place - Relegated - 17th Pick in Rookie Draft [/li][li] 18th Place - Relegated - 18th Pick in Rookie Draft[/color][/li][/ul] Division 2- 1st Place - Promoted - 19th Pick in Rookie Draft
- 2nd Place - Promoted - 20th Pick in Rookie Draft
- 3rd Place - Promoted - 21st Pick in Rookie Draft
[/color] [/li][li] 4th Place - Promotion Playoffs (best team is promoted) - 22nd Pick in Rookie Draft [/li][li] 5th Place - Promotion Playoffs [/li][li] 6th Place - Promotion Playoffs [/li][li] 7th Place - Promotion Playoffs [/color][/li][li] 8th Place [/li][li] 9th Place [/li][li] 10th Place [/li][li] 11th Place [/li][li] 12th Place [/li][li] 13th Place [/li][li] 14th Place [/li][li] 15th Place [/li][li] 16th Place [/li][li] 17th Place [/li][li] 18th Place - 1st Pick in Rookie Draft.[/li][/ul]
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