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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 22, 2007 7:57:39 GMT
JRich $10m
Before;$47,760,121 After;$47,7101,21
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IND '07 1st Foster $5.2 Bell $4.75 $9.95
Before;$60,008,449 After;$60,058,449
I accept, I get a very good starting SG and Philly(who is rebuilding) gets a 1st round pick.
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Post by jerry on Jul 22, 2007 8:12:44 GMT
Confirm
I move Richardson, who I brought in for scoring but he wasn't really putting up the numbers, for a quality defensive SG in Bell, a backup vet big in Foster who'll be an expiring next season, and of course a first rounder, potential lottery pick to help rebuild with. It also will cut about $22m off my future salary obligations.
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 22, 2007 18:34:53 GMT
No from me. Richardson is much too good to give up for bell. Foster is just a rebounder, and isn't even as good as advertised. The first rounder will probably be in the middle since I think Indy will make the playoffs if this trade goes through.
Therefor, I say no.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 22, 2007 18:48:49 GMT
I also reject. For the same reasons Chicago gave above. With JRich on board Indiana improves to a point where the 1st rounder doesn't look too pretty, and that's essentially what Philly's looking to get. Bell and Foster don't balance it for me.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 22, 2007 19:07:38 GMT
Reason why this should be accepted; Even with Jason Richardson on my team that pick will be no lower then the 20th pick, and this is a deep draft, and add in the fact he'll save a bit of money to add into an offer for a FA at the end of the season
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 22, 2007 19:17:26 GMT
I made a slight change to it, now I'm not getting GSW 2nd round pick and he's getting my 2nd round pick
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Post by jerry on Jul 22, 2007 19:22:55 GMT
confirmed
I don't really understand what the big deal is, Mullin moved JRich, who I admit is a good player, for an 8th overall straight up, and recieved accolades. I'm getting a potential lottery pick, Indy are 15-22 and are hardly contending, plus Bell who's a decent starter. With me getting a second instead of giving one up you guys think this is balanced?
J
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 22, 2007 19:47:06 GMT
I think another, more difficult, reason that I rejected is because I'm starting to not like the way New York and Philly are just pushing 100% for the future. And that's only because I like a sense of realism in the league, it's purely a selfish reason I suppose.
I don't like the trade and I'd rather NYK & Philly's strategy wasn't so extreme (although I guess both teams don't have any more major pieces to trade away anymore). But that's not a good reason to reject the trade.
Indiana's 2nd rounder doesn't have to be there. I change my vote to Accept.
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Post by jerry on Jul 22, 2007 20:24:45 GMT
Yeah, I can't deny that I'm not in complete rebuild mode. However I still feel I have a few pieces to work with, Miller and Bell as trade chips plus Carney, Diogu, Duhon, Louis Williams, and some other younger guys, and now two extra first rounders.
The thing is so few GM's are willing to give up young talent unless it's at a premium, often for good reason, (sometimes not), so the only way to rebuild without overpaying for a young talent is through the draft, and/or taking a lot of second tier youth and hoping to unearth one or two. Iggy, Miller, Sammy D, Korver and Joe D would never have had me contending, plus I missed out on the picks the Iverson trade so I have to work with what I've got. As it is I've moved Iggy, Joe Smith, Korver, and Jones while taking Diogu, Bell, Duhon, Sweetney and Foster back. Not too bad given I've also netted two 1st round picks, possible lottery, plus two extra 2nd round picks in the next two drafts. I've really only downgraded one position from the season start, that being the SF spot Iggy had.
J
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 22, 2007 22:25:41 GMT
Fair enough. Your good looks and manly way of putting things have swayed me.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 24, 2007 23:19:25 GMT
Need one more to accept it
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Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 25, 2007 6:48:49 GMT
I accept
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 25, 2007 20:57:34 GMT
just needs Boston to finalize it
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 25, 2007 21:13:44 GMT
Update Salary and Depth Charts.
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