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Post by bringit - CHA on Nov 13, 2009 18:38:03 GMT
The Orlando Magics would like to sign Shawn Marion to a 3 year contract worth 30 million.
Year 1: 10,000,000 Year 2: 10,000,000 Year 3: 10,000,000
Shawn Marion would play at PF or SF with our team.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 15, 2009 4:18:26 GMT
The Indiana Pacers are proud to offer Shawn Marion a 5 year deal worth $60 million with player options in the 3rd and 4th years.
09/10::$10,000,000 10/11::$11,000,000 11/12::$12,000,000 12/13::$13,000,000 13/14::$14,000,000
Overall team salary;
09/10::$29,690,640 10/11::$18,203,040 11/12::$10,860,217 12/13::$6,444,857
We feel that having The Matrix at SF would be a great addition to our team. Having him as part of our core with Carlos Boozer and potentially Baron Davis is something that we believe will lead us to being a very successful team.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 15, 2009 9:42:38 GMT
The Jazz would like to offer Shawn Marion a 4 year contract. With the recent trade we made for Kobe Bryant we have a huge vacancy in our starting lineup at the SF position. We would love for Shawn to come to Utah to help us try and win a D5 championship. We can guarantee he him the starting job and legit chance to win a title as we feel he is the missing piece.
Year 1 - $10,854,000 Year 2 - $11,322,320 Year 3 - $11,790,640 Year 4 - $12,258,960 Year 5 - $13,000,000
Total - $59,225,920
We are using our full MLE and additional $5,000,000 extension from using 100 reward points.
*Edit - Offer modified to add a 5th year.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Nov 15, 2009 15:30:45 GMT
[red]Utah and Indiana's contracts are a good size, keep it around there guys.
Bobcats (on behalf of Orlando) will need to offer more years, since the other dudes are offering better.[/red]
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Post by bringit - CHA on Nov 15, 2009 16:02:38 GMT
Orlando counters with
Year 1: 10,000,000 Year 2: 11,000,000 Year 3: 12,000,000 (PO) Year 4: 13,000,000 Year 5: 14,000,000 (PO)
Total: 5 years, 60,000,000 million.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 15, 2009 18:52:01 GMT
We have modified our original offer to add a 5th year. We would also like to point out to Shawn and his agent that he will be guaranteed the starting job at his natural SF position in Utah. Orlando already has SF - Paul Pierce, re-signing SF - Hedo Turkoglu, and have offered SF - Lamar Odom. Our money is all guaranteed as Shawn is our top priority this off-season.
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Post by bringit - CHA on Nov 15, 2009 19:12:37 GMT
We would like to point out that Marion would be our SF and PF. Pierce is our SG and Turks can play both PF and SF so what ever Marion wants to play is up to him. We feel that if we add Jason Kidd and Marion our lineup would look like Jason Kidd - Pierce - Marion - Hedo - Howard, which is pretty decent lineup.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 15, 2009 21:56:26 GMT
My hat off to you Charlotte. You are working awfully hard to make a team in your division better Maybe you should think about the Bobcat's best interests!
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Nov 15, 2009 21:59:03 GMT
Is Utah even allowed to combine reward points + MLE? It seems like its defeating the purpose of the MLE and making cap room basically pointless
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Post by bringit - CHA on Nov 15, 2009 22:14:38 GMT
My hat off to you Charlotte. You are working awfully hard to make a team in your division better Maybe you should think about the Bobcat's best interests! i no w\e ill still beat Orlando lol
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 16, 2009 4:24:03 GMT
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 16, 2009 17:04:43 GMT
Since it seems this has come down to arguing which team can offer the better overall situation I might as well jump in. As already stated by Utah if Marion signs with Orlando he would most likely play out of position, if he were to sign with us he wouldn't play this position or this position he would be our starting SF. Also we believe we would be a better fit then Utah because he would be more of a main option. Being on a team with Rose, Bryant, Gasol, and Brand he would be the 4th option at best. On our team even with a resigned Boozer and a signed Baron Davis he would be at the least the 2nd option.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 17, 2009 16:48:25 GMT
We would like to point out to Shawn if he comes to Utah he will step in and start at the SF spot in an already set lineup. The other teams offering him cannot say the same thing as they are all basing their lineup projections on signing other free agents. Also Shawn is our only priority at this point where as other teams have multiple offers out for other free agents.
Some teams have argued that Shawn would be an after thought in the Jazz offense but that could not be further from the truth. If you look at the Jazz stats over the past 3 seasons we have always managed to have great scoring balance regardless of who is the lineup. Kobe being on his team is only going to get him more open shots and Derrick Rose is a pass first PG for our team.
Come to Utah Shawn where you will be joining one of the most stable franchises in D5 and could possibly be part of a D5 championship.
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Post by blue on Nov 17, 2009 23:59:28 GMT
As my co-GM previously stated before, Shawn would play the position that he wants to play in Orlando. If he wants to be the starting Small Forward then he would be the starting Small Forward and Hedo would move to the Power Forward position. If Shawn wants to be the starting Power Forward then he would be the starting Power Forward and Hedo would stay at the Small Forward position.
We love Shawn's explosiveness and defence and find he would be a key player for our team who is looking to compete and go far in the playoffs this year. Shawn would be the perfect compliment to our Center Dwight Howard.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 18, 2009 15:41:48 GMT
Any player agent feedback?
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Post by Boston Celtics on Nov 21, 2009 13:54:35 GMT
[red]Sorry, things were being held up by the old Golden State GM and he made it so I didn't have time for anything else other than arguing it out with him.
Is Utah combining MLE money and cap space for this deal (which wouldn't be okay)? Or extending their signing capabilities using reward points (which would be fine)? I'm not following it entirely.
Teams may start bidding using Reward Points, we'll clarify Utah's position as we progress.[/red]
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 21, 2009 16:53:21 GMT
100 Points- Exceed the salary cap by $5,000,000 on a lopsided transaction.
[/li][/ul] I think this is what Utah is doing, just adding that $5 mill onto the MLE.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Nov 21, 2009 17:26:21 GMT
Hmm, that makes it a wee bit troublesome. Hopefully this wont become another Danny Granger. God knows if it is I think I'll throw in the towel.
I'm not sure whether to allow it. My instinct sees the MLE as a benefit for teams over the cap, not something you can extend like your initial cap space.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 21, 2009 17:28:45 GMT
We would like to point out that we are on the verge of resigning Carlos Boozer. Also Utah may have been a more evened out team when it come to scoring before but that was WITHOUT Kobe Bryant. If Marion signs with them he would be the 4th option at best and remember this is a guy that was unhappy being the 3rd option behind Nash and Stoudemire while he played in Phoenix. If he signed with us he would be the 2nd option at the least with the opportunity to prove himself to be the first option.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 21, 2009 17:40:36 GMT
Actually based of that scenario that team is $5 mill under the cap and uses 100rpts to go $5 mill over the cap, it doesn't say anything about adding onto the MLE.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 21, 2009 19:31:49 GMT
I'm extending my MLE by using reward points which I came to understand was legal. I'm not in favor it being legal but if it is in fact legal, then I'm going to do it. Regardless if it is allowed or not please let me know ASAP b/c if not I need to to make an offer to a player I can actually get with my MLE. Let me know!
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 22, 2009 4:27:20 GMT
Based of off Bostons reply I can see why you thought it was. I don't really like the idea of it but because of it not being 100% clear I think it should be allowed in this case.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 22, 2009 8:14:42 GMT
Just let me know 1 way or the other so I can adjust my plans accordingly. I'd still very much like the services of Mr. Marion though if possible
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Post by Boston Celtics on Nov 22, 2009 9:41:02 GMT
Aye sorry Utah, I think I'm going to make that illegal. I should've drawn up proper MLE plans before OSFA began, sorry to mess you around.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Nov 22, 2009 9:57:25 GMT
Aye sorry Utah, I think I'm going to make that illegal. I should've drawn up proper MLE plans before OSFA began, sorry to mess you around. yeah thats absolitly not correct....mle is always slightly above 5 millions...you can extend the salary cap but not add 5 millions to the mle...everybody would do that now lol
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Post by Utah Jazz on Nov 23, 2009 7:38:12 GMT
Aye sorry Utah, I think I'm going to make that illegal. I should've drawn up proper MLE plans before OSFA began, sorry to mess you around. yeah thats absolitly not correct....mle is always slightly above 5 millions...you can extend the salary cap but not add 5 millions to the mle...everybody would do that now lol No actually everyone couldnt do that. Read what were talking about.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Nov 23, 2009 14:25:50 GMT
[red]CHA and IND are now the best bidders. Start with the RP bidding guys.[/red]
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Nov 23, 2009 15:19:15 GMT
I think you mean ORL instead of CHA.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Nov 23, 2009 17:18:51 GMT
65rpts
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Post by bringit - CHA on Nov 23, 2009 18:32:45 GMT
50
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