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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jul 24, 2008 23:30:30 GMT
New Jersey's Solution:
Emeka opts out after his 2nd year to play for a contender, and gets a reasonable contract
AND!: New rule!
If a player on your team expires, you hold RESTRICTED FREE AGENT RIGHTS, meaning that you can match any offer that another teams sends out. BUT, you have to have the cap room to match the offer. Real nba, you dont need the caproom for RFA, and here you do!
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Post by scrapz on Jul 25, 2008 7:42:18 GMT
dont forget old philly's here with LOTS of cap space
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Post by scrapz on Jul 25, 2008 8:02:00 GMT
2008/2009 $17,000,000
2009/2010 $19,250,000
2010/2011 $21,837,500
2011/2012 $24,813,125
2012/2013 $26,235,093
comes too a total of $109,135,718!!!!!!!!!!!
welcome to philly emeka
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 25, 2008 10:11:01 GMT
That was a joke, right?
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 25, 2008 10:11:20 GMT
New Jersey's Solution: Emeka opts out after his 2nd year to play for a contender, and gets a reasonable contract AND!: New rule! If a player on your team expires, you hold RESTRICTED FREE AGENT RIGHTS, meaning that you can match any offer that another teams sends out. BUT, you have to have the cap room to match the offer. Real nba, you dont need the caproom for RFA, and here you do! Both very good ideas.
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Post by od3n52 - OKC on Jul 25, 2008 17:25:52 GMT
That was a joke, right? Well, you'd be clueless too if you showed up 3/4 of the way through free agency.
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Post by matt on Jul 25, 2008 19:58:14 GMT
I like NJ's idea.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 25, 2008 22:24:51 GMT
That was a joke, right? Well, you'd be clueless too if you showed up 3/4 of the way through free agency. LOL ;D
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 30, 2008 14:16:40 GMT
I think the way I'm going to rectify the 'Okafor Debacle' is to cut the length of his contract. I'm going to allow him to keep the first two years, but from year 3 onwards is void, like he's chosen to terminate that section of his contract right now.
Most of all, this sucks for the Chicago Bulls, who might have been able to re-sign Okafor. I don't know what New York was thinking here, but this, I believe, is the best way to rectify the matter.
Therefore, this is the deal that Okafor has signed:
2008/2009 $15,000,000
2009/2010 $17,250,000
Any complaints?
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 30, 2008 16:16:07 GMT
If your going to change the contract you mite as well give him to Chicago. And I don't get how it's unrealistic for a sh*tty team (my team had the 9th worst and then tied for the 4th worst record) to overpay for a player.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 30, 2008 16:51:30 GMT
You should keep him Indy for these 2 years, but as NJN said, we should have RFA rules so he could get Okafor again....
If u have the money, u can use the money for what u want.
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Post by nosh2 - LAL on Jul 30, 2008 17:15:47 GMT
He got 6 years / 72 million from the Bobcats in real life. 100 mil is a tad unrealistic.
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 30, 2008 17:18:09 GMT
And the Bobcats were overpaying for him with that contract lmao. 101 million over 5 years is just insane. And I'm glad Boston is well balanced enough mentally to realize that. I don't know why you're complaining Indy, you're still getting him for two years minimum, and maybe if your team does well, he might stick around. Mind you, my team doing well didn't keep him or Gordon around...
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Jul 30, 2008 17:25:58 GMT
I'm complaining because I'm tired of hearing about it, it seems like people think this deal is going to single handedly KILL free agency for this league (Okafor Debacle WTF?) And if everythinks my team is going to be so bad why change the contract he'll just opt out anyway.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jul 30, 2008 17:30:11 GMT
I'm complaining because I'm tired of hearing about it, it seems like people think this deal is going to single handedly KILL free agency for this league (Okafor Debacle WTF?) And if everythinks my team is going to be so bad why change the contract he'll just opt out anyway. You should be optimistic about this change. No matter how badly your team plays, Okafor is never going to opt out of this deal because he's never going to get this kinda money anywhere else. Also, in two years time we'll hopefully have figured out how to re-sign and free agent properly, meaning you'll actually get to re-sign him for a reasonable amount rather than this utter pantyfartyshitty contract.
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 30, 2008 17:33:30 GMT
^^^+1000
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Jul 31, 2008 5:22:10 GMT
In my previous league, nbagmleague Kwame Brown signed a contract for about $12 million. Stromile Swift had about $19 million a year for 5 years or so. There were some other absolute horrid contracts, but honestly, those players still managed to be traded around every now and then.
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Post by Erik Lassen on Jul 31, 2008 6:04:04 GMT
That's pathetic. I'm glad our league is nothing like that.
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Jul 31, 2008 6:07:23 GMT
It was the summer of 2005, right when the league started. We barely had rules set, and at the time, Swift and Brown were still pretty good decent players. But trust me, after that offseason and those signings, it never happened again. We became much more organized and realistic.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Aug 2, 2008 15:59:44 GMT
New Jersey's Solution: Emeka opts out after his 2nd year to play for a contender, and gets a reasonable contract AND!: New rule! If a player on your team expires, you hold RESTRICTED FREE AGENT RIGHTS, meaning that you can match any offer that another teams sends out. BUT, you have to have the cap room to match the offer. Real nba, you dont need the caproom for RFA, and here you do! WHOA WHOA WHOA, I like your first idea he should get a reasonable contract. BUT HOLD ON ONE ****ING SECOND ON THE SECOND RULE, WHICH IS TOTAL BS. THAT would CRIPPLE the meaning of FA, if what all teams BASICALLY NEEDS TO DO is just match an offer with ALL THE CAP SPACE in the world to keep their player. Yeah I know you need CAP SPACE to re-sign that SPECIFIC player, but what's the point of EVEN MAKING AN OFFER, if you KNOW your not gonna have a chance to ge that player. WITH THAT RULE, FA would be MEANINGLESS, regardless of whether you can match any offer and go over cap OR you would have all the cap space in the world, cause then everyone would be OVERPAYING for MID-LEVEL Free Agents.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Aug 2, 2008 16:06:39 GMT
HERE'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT NEW JERSEY.
BOSTON's cap next year is $35,753,793, and that's with BOOZER AND WILLIAMS AS FREE AGENTS.
If D-Will and Boozer get an offer of say 15-16 mil per year, ALL BOS would have to do his drop his TEAM OPTIONS of Rajon Rondo (prolly not) and Jamario Moon to have the CAP SPACE to simply MATCH and keep Boozer and Williams.
also Varajao has a Player Option next year, the STAFF drops that option and BOS gets cap space and keeps Rondo and releases Moon all he has to do is MATCH Boozer and Williams for 17 mil EACH.
another example would be ATLANTA
his cap is at 42 mil next year and he drops Walker's, Powe's and maybe other players option.
He can EASILY match 10 mil each for BYNUM AND GRANGER, and still be under cap at 62-63 mil.
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Aug 2, 2008 17:54:27 GMT
For this not to happen again, I suggest max contracts. Something like how many years the player has been in the NBA goes towards how much the max contract is. Just an example...
0-3 years $9,000,000 5 years 3-10 years $15,000,000 5 years 10+ years $18,000,000 5 years
Just an example I came up with on the spot. If multiple teams offer the max contract, the player agents decides which option is better for his client.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Aug 2, 2008 21:51:09 GMT
Nope. What we're going to do is address each major free agent individually before OSFA begins and implement some rough salary guidelines for each one that can be exceeded or be less than (did you know, there's actually no word in the English language which is the opposite of exceeded? I just googled and looked it up, heh).
Whilst each contract is being negotiated we, the player agents, will share our thoughts on whether a deal is too much/too little and make alterations before they are posted.
And if what I'm arranging with Denver happens, we might negotiate contracts before the Off Season begins, throughout the season, and draw up rough guidelines on all the major upcoming FAs.
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