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Post by Boston Celtics on Jan 30, 2009 12:09:31 GMT
I've made it so that you can post anonymously in this section, by logging out and posting as a guest, so as not to provoke any wrath when you mention a player who should decrease in skill.
I would nominate these guys for a decrease, just off the top of my head: Smush Parker Steve Francis Eddy Curry Jermaine O'Neal Larry Hughes
and possibly: Kirk Hinrich Gilbert Arenas Tracey McGrady Shawn Marion Josh Howard
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Post by annonymous on Jan 31, 2009 21:27:40 GMT
add Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin to that list, no way they should be rated 88 or 89 and 83 respectively.
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jan 31, 2009 21:30:59 GMT
well thats not a blatent attack on my team :/
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Post by pistons521 - MIA on Jan 31, 2009 21:31:34 GMT
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jan 31, 2009 21:32:38 GMT
lets just ass rape the nets!
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jan 31, 2009 21:41:15 GMT
Rasheed Wallace: 87-76
This is a guy who has averaged 12 ppg and 6 rpg each of the past 3 seasons... his defense has completely fallen off, and he can barely stick with people anymore. He has an extremely low basketball IQ and really I feel has been overrated his entire career.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jan 31, 2009 21:41:39 GMT
Kobe should be high 60s
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Jan 31, 2009 21:44:08 GMT
I'd like to say Howard is still avg 18 ppg and 5 rpg irl...Which is still more than anyone else listed.
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Post by ragas2134 - LAC on Jan 31, 2009 21:44:36 GMT
Ahhh. I knew this was coming . I was wondering how long Smush would be a 74. Not to pile on NJ, but Lammond Murray and Doug Christie should not be higher than 65. They haven't played an NBA game in 3 years.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jan 31, 2009 21:48:37 GMT
lol, poor Nets, that's actually a really good point LAC. Infact, I should've retired those guys before starting the season.
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Post by bringit - CHA on Jan 31, 2009 21:49:55 GMT
im for that
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jan 31, 2009 21:50:33 GMT
Sheed Marbury Ricky Davis Marion tmac JO Shaun Livington Lamar Odom Luol deng (not too much tough)
I dont remember all the ratings from those guys. but they deserve a decrease for sure...
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jan 31, 2009 21:50:57 GMT
I think kobe's rating should be 24 just like his number 24.
60 or 61 is too high I think.
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Jan 31, 2009 21:55:05 GMT
Sheed Marbury Ricky Davis Marion tmac JO Shaun Livington Lamar Odom Luol deng (not too much tough) I dont remember all the ratings from those guys. but they deserve a decrease for sure... Ima agree w this list....
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Post by ragas2134 - LAC on Jan 31, 2009 21:58:52 GMT
Ill stick up for one of my Bulls. Deng should not be decreased. He was off to a slow start due to injuries and a coach that didn't know how to use him, but since he came back from injury (last 10 games) he is averaging 19 and 8. As the season continues, Deng's play will continue to improve.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jan 31, 2009 22:10:02 GMT
players that should get decreased.
Steve Nash JO everyone except Kobe and Prince from the Nets T-Mac Shawn Marion Al Harrington Corey Maggette Gilbert Arenas Eddy Curry Q Richardson Brad Miller C-Kaman Boozer M. Redd R. Jefferson K. Hinrich L. Hughes Sheed AI G. Wallace M. Bibby
and that's about it for now, can't think of anyone else.
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Post by bringit - CHA on Jan 31, 2009 22:13:02 GMT
ohhhh no no no BIBBY? really? This guy is having a great year
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jan 31, 2009 22:18:41 GMT
61 M Ager 82 L Odom 72 S Francis 73 W Szczerbiak 86 P Gasol 76 J Crawford 62 R Price 66 L Hunter 61 S Lasme 56 A Gray 66 B Nachbar 76 J Green 75 R Felton
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jan 31, 2009 22:20:18 GMT
yeah Bibby is having a better season IMO and really? C-Mag should decrease? he is getting almost 20 ppg, 6 rpg and 2 apg...83 is perfect for him IMO... and Dallas I knew that u would say Nash after I said that I wouldnt say anyone from my team in that PM ur traitor but CMag doesnt deserve a decrease at all
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Post by ragas2134 - LAC on Jan 31, 2009 22:22:57 GMT
No way Bibby goes down. He has been as important as any other player on the Hawks this year. Has hit numerous game winners and clutch shots. And his stats are similar to what he usually averages.
This is why DAL could never be on a staff when ratings were discussed. He is extremely bias. He has a list of players he hates and because of that their ratings should go down. I know this because the sim league community is a tight nit group and we have been around each other for a good 2 and a half years now.80% of that list he posted are players he hates and has made it well known. Sorry DAL, I like you, but sometimes you dont think rationally.
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Post by ragas2134 - LAC on Jan 31, 2009 22:25:54 GMT
players that should get decreased. Steve Nash JO everyone except Kobe and Prince from the Nets T-Mac Shawn Marion Al Harrington Corey Maggette Gilbert Arenas Eddy Curry Q Richardson Brad Miller C-Kaman Boozer M. Redd R. Jefferson K. Hinrich L. Hughes Sheed AI G. Wallace M. Bibby and that's about it for now, can't think of anyone else. No on, Gerald Wallace, Redd, Harrington, Maggette, Q-Rich, Boozer, Kaman, Arenas, Brad Miller, & Bibby.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jan 31, 2009 22:29:26 GMT
Yeah what LAC said....Dallas, just because u hate players or GMs that doesnt mean that their players ratings should decrease I didnt read all ur list when I looked at the first time...but now when I saw LAC's last post...wow u have some problems
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jan 31, 2009 22:33:16 GMT
No way Bibby goes down. He has been as important as any other player on the Hawks this year. Has hit numerous game winners and clutch shots. And his stats are similar to what he usually averages. This is why DAL could never be on a staff when ratings were discussed. He is extremely bias. He has a list of players he hates and because of that their ratings should go down. I know this because the sim league community is a tight nit group and we have been around each other for a good 2 and a half years now.80% of that list he posted are players he hates and has made it well known. Sorry DAL, I like you, but sometimes you dont think rationally. there's only 4 guys that I have bias againist that's Lebron, Shaq, Nash, KG, and that's it. other then that the rest I just threw out there for no reason. Sheed JO T-Mac Shawn Marion Gilbert ArenasEddy Curry C-Kaman Boozer Steve Nash These guys as far as I am concerned should be decreased. and I know for a FACT that the guys in BOLD has been discussed by EVERYONE for ratings to go down for. Curry has not done anything in 2 years, Boozer has been INJURY PRONE, Kaman has been inconsistent at times.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jan 31, 2009 22:37:43 GMT
well Boozer and Kaman both have injuries since November...so theres not too much to say... I'll agree with the guys in bold and Nash/Curry.... but u need to stop being so bias!
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jan 31, 2009 22:41:45 GMT
well Boozer and Kaman both have injuries since November...so theres not too much to say... I'll agree with the guys in bold and Nash/Curry.... but u need to stop being so bias! only biased againist 2 or 3 players that's it. other then that I am just having fun with the rest.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jan 31, 2009 22:46:55 GMT
yeah I don't agree with Kaman's name there, or Boozer either, but he's my guy so wont big him up or anything
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jan 31, 2009 22:50:08 GMT
yeah I don't agree with Kaman's name there, or Boozer either, but he's my guy so wont big him up or anything the reason I threw in Boozer is because of the obvious injury, and his team's success without him, Paul Millsap played like an all-star while he was out. as for Kaman he was not consistent in beginning of year with Camby, and NOTICE how he ONLY had big numbers LAST YEAR when Brand was injured for the entire year. And for Kaman he was constantly put on trade block, you'd expect Camby to be the one to go, and after Z-Bo came in everyone was talking about a Kaman for Marion or Kaman for G. Wall. that showed that he isn't as valuable to his team as he should be.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Jan 31, 2009 22:57:12 GMT
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Post by affect - DET on Jan 31, 2009 23:00:02 GMT
Sheed is averaging more RPG then last season and putting up pretty much the same numbers why decrease him? He's played at this consistent rate and is a game changer no reason he should be decreased lower then a 85.
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Post by od3n52 - OKC on Feb 1, 2009 2:54:32 GMT
Sheed is averaging more RPG then last season and putting up pretty much the same numbers why decrease him? He's played at this consistent rate and is a game changer no reason he should be decreased lower then a 85. Pretty much the same numbers from the Detroit days, that's not big though. Take the highest of those years, he'd average 15.1 PPG and 8.2 RPG. That doesn't really spell 85+. 85+ is more all-star numbers, and 15 and 8 isn't that.
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